Guthrie in Logan County, Oklahoma — The American South (West South Central)

Same Old Moses Saloon

Photographed by Mark Hilton, October 22, 2019

1. Same Old Moses Saloon Marker

Inscription. During the 17 Territorial years, open saloons thrived in Guthrie. One of the most popular was the "Same Old Moses" operated by Moses Weinberger, a settler from Wichita, Kan.

Weinberger made the Run selling bananas April 22, 1889, and soon established a fruit stand at 218 West Oklahoma. Thinking liquor more profitable than perishable fruit, he obtained a government liquor license and opened one of the first legal saloons and wholesale liquor businesses in the area. Although he moved his saloon several times, he was a popular "mein host" and his business at 211 West Harrison flourished.

Carry Nation, well know prohibitionist leader, was living in the capital city, and repeatedly threatened the local saloon keepers. She reportedly wielded her bar breaking hatchet against the "Same Old Moses," and Weinberger, seeing the publicity good for business, responded with a sign: "All nations welcome except carry."

Strict prohibition came with statehood in 1907 and Weinberger, by then located in the basement of the Lyon Building, 102 West Harrison, sold his stock and swung the saloon doors closed for the last time.

Erected 1980

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Topics. This historical marker is listed in this topic list: Notable Places. A significant historical date for this entry is April 22, 1889.

Location. 35° 52.614′ N, 97° 25.631′ W. Marker is in Guthrie, Oklahoma, in Logan County. It is on West Harrison Avenue east of South 2nd Street, on the right when traveling east. Touch for map. Marker is at or near this postal address: West Harrison Avenue, Guthrie OK 73044, United States of America. Touch for directions.

Regionally, this marker is in Central Oklahoma — Frontier Country

and in Greater Oklahoma City.

It is also in the American South,

specifically on the prairies,

and on the Southern Plains.

Globally, it is in North America,

the Western Hemisphere,

the Western World,

and the Anglosphere.

Historically, it finds itself in what was once the territory of the Mississippian Culture

and also the Louisiana Purchase.

Other nearby markers. At least 8 other markers are within walking distance of this marker: International Building (a few steps from this marker); Blue Bell Bar (within shouting distance of this marker); Victor Building (within shouting

Photographed by Mark Hilton, October 22, 2019

2. Same Old Moses Saloon Marker

distance of this marker); Oklahoma Daily State Capital (within shouting distance of this marker); Reeves Brothers Casino (within shouting distance of this marker); Office of E.P. McCabe (within shouting distance of this marker); De Ford Building (within shouting distance of this marker); Foucart Building (about 300 feet away, measured in a direct line). Touch for a list and map of all markers in Guthrie.

Also see . . . Moses Weinberger Parlayed Bananas into Saloon Fame (blog). (Submitted on October 27, 2019, by Mark Hilton of Montgomery, Alabama.)

Credits. This page was last revised on October 27, 2019. It was originally submitted on October 27, 2019, by Mark Hilton of Montgomery, Alabama. This page has been viewed 847 times since then and 34 times this year. Photos: 1, 2. submitted on October 27, 2019, by Mark Hilton of Montgomery, Alabama.