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Near Fort Loramie in Shelby County, Ohio — The American Midwest (Great Lakes)
 

Greenville Treaty Line

the Starting Point

— the Big Sycamore Tree on Loramie Creek —

 
 
Greenville Treaty Line Marker image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
1. Greenville Treaty Line Marker
The starting point of Israel Ludlow's survey and the beginning of the random line east.
Inscription.
On June 18, 1797 from a sycamore tree near the fork of Loramie Creek, Israel Ludlow surveyed a random line east 130.6 miles to the Muskingum River. On August 3, 1799, a short distance east of this spot, Ludlow commenced the Greenville Treaty Line west 21.6 miles to Ft. Recovery, (set 2014)
 
Erected 2014 by Fort Loramie Historical Society Shelby County Historical Society.
 
Topics. This historical marker is listed in these topic lists: Indigenous Peoples and CommunitiesSettlements & Settlers. A significant historical month for this entry is June 1803.
 
Location. 40° 20.672′ N, 84° 22.866′ W. Marker is near Fort Loramie, Ohio, in Shelby County. It can be reached from Indian Trail. marker is in deep woods, along Loramie Creek at Mile creek, Access is on private farm lanes and pastures at the Ken Gigandet farm, 2638 St Rt 705 just west of Fort Loramie. Farm road runs south off of the state highway between a corn field and the farm buildings. It turns east then back south to a woodline along the creek bank. Touch for map. Marker is at or near this postal address: 2638 St Rt 705, Fort Loramie OH 45845, United States of America. Touch for directions.

Regionally, this marker is in Ohio’s Till Plains. It is also in the American Midwest and in the Corn Belt. Globally, it is in North America, the Western Hemisphere, the Western World, and the Anglosphere. Historically, it finds itself in what was once the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy, the territory of the Mississippian Culture, and the Northwest Territory.

Other nearby markers. At least 8 other markers are within walking distance of this marker: Veterans Memorial (approx. 0.4 miles away); Miami Erie Canal Mile Stone (approx. half a mile away); Greene Ville Treaty Line / Miami and Erie Canal
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(approx. half a mile away); Buckeye Trail History (approx. half a mile away); Bernard Mayer Building (approx. 0.6 miles away); Fort Loramie Veterans Monument (approx. 0.6 miles away); Fort Loramie Town Crest (approx. 0.6 miles away); You Are On The Buckeye Trail (approx. 0.6 miles away). Touch for a list and map of all markers in Fort Loramie.
 
Another marker is no longer nearby. Pioneer Portage (was approx. 0.6 miles away but has been confirmed missing).
 
More about this marker. At this point, the marker is on private property, but Boy Scout Troop 355, and Cub Scout Pack 355 have cleared a path, and landscaped the area. I can only assume that some type of easement will be provided in the future.
 
Related marker. Click here for another marker that is related to this marker. The Grenville Line markers
 
Also see . . .  Treaty of Greeneville (1795). Ohio History Central website entry (Submitted on July 16, 2022, by Larry Gertner of New York, New York.) 
 
Additional keywords. Israel Ludlow
 
Greenville Treaty Line Marker image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
2. Greenville Treaty Line Marker
Site of the Big Sycamore. Area cleared and landscaped by Boy Scout Troop 355, and Cub Scout Pack 355.
Greenville Treaty Line Starting Point image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
3. Greenville Treaty Line Starting Point
The marker is covered with the flag of the Village of Fort Loramie. The crest contains a powder horn, a tomahawk, and a peace pipe. This is moments before the dedication.
Greenville Treaty Line Map image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
4. Greenville Treaty Line Map
James Williams' map, showing much of Israel Ludlow's work.
Greenville Treaty Line image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
5. Greenville Treaty Line
The treaty Line, marked, crossing Loramie Creek, eastbound
Greenville Treaty Line image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
6. Greenville Treaty Line
As part of the dedication celebration, the Greenville Treaty Line was marked through the streets of Fort Loramie.
Greenville Treaty Line through the streets of Fort Loramie image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
7. Greenville Treaty Line through the streets of Fort Loramie
Marker Dedication Ceremony image. Click for full size.
Photographed by Rev. Ronald Irick, September 28, 2014
8. Marker Dedication Ceremony
"Pioneer" surveyor, James Williams, speaking before the dedication
 
 
Credits. This page was last revised on July 16, 2022. It was originally submitted on September 28, 2014, by Rev. Ronald Irick of West Liberty, Ohio. This page has been viewed 2,397 times since then and 122 times this year. Photos:   1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. submitted on September 28, 2014, by Rev. Ronald Irick of West Liberty, Ohio. • Al Wolf was the editor who published this page.
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